You can rotate yourself by seeing the right time and have a word with him again.
After having a word with him and getting tired of his wordings, he will move towards a ledge near the ride’s top. You will get located next to past from the Eygom of Carim, and he will be coming forward with the lift. You can find this location on the map of the game. It would be best if you first looked for Dark Souls 3 Siegward of Catarina, located at the Undead Settlement.